Calif. electric car revolution, designed to save the planet, unleashes a toll on it

Posted on July 21, 2021 12:10 pm

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Highrise
Highrise
8 days ago

As someone who has a background to at least understand this electrical stuff, I call total hogwash on the mandates to EV. How can people be so shortsighted to even remotely be supportive of it? Even if you have one, why on earth would you be even remotely ok that it’s mandated? Oh because you are covered so that’s that? You will be eaten by your selfishness in the end. The EV mandating and the lying justifications is just sickening to watch. China controls most of the market for the raw-material refining needed for the batteries and dominates component manufacturing; industry… Read more »

ann chovie
ann chovie
9 days ago

Now Mercedes wants to go all electric…..no matter, it will still F up. Why? There is no such thing as an inexpensive German vehicle. When the cigarette lighter fails, the Germans will have to build a seperate engineering facility to make the part. Ever notice how drivers of these waste cans operate as if they invented transportation…?

Squatch
9 days ago

The article mentions the possible environmental impact of mining enough lithium carbonate for electric car batteries.
They better save enough lithium carbonate for the explosion in bipolar disorder cases in the exploding heads of environmentalists and the “earth-first” crowd that will be caused by lithium mining. But progress is never without consequences.
“For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.” attributed to both Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein. Each used somewhat different verbiage but the meaning is the same. This quote is that of Einstein.

KunaKurmudgeon
KunaKurmudgeon
9 days ago

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Squatch
9 days ago
Reply to  KunaKurmudgeon

Well played, sir.

Richard Giddens
Richard Giddens
10 days ago

My electric works just fine, thank you. This article looks at electrification through a rear view mirror and their are new developments that certainly should be noticed. New battery technology doesnt use cobalt. New solid state batteries that outperform and are safer then today’s liquid Li-ion electrolyte batteries. Electric car batteries are not the only end consuming product that rare earth metals support. Besides our national security weapon systems needs, there’s also the electronics, electrical, solar and battery storage industries that use rare earth metals, but even that’s changing. There’s no real inconvenience using a long range electric vehicle crosscountry… Read more »

M.V.
M.V.
9 days ago

Energy independence can’t come from a derived power. You have to turn a generator to make electricity. In the Western U.S., the lack of water in the reservoirs is going to turn the turbines with roughly an 80% power efficiency at most in Summer 2021, nearly guaranteeing a power shortage. I have no problem with electric cars, but there’s NO WAY the power grid in the U.S. can handle a large-scale, rushed shift to it. The meme that’s causing so much trouble is: “FOSSIL FUELS BAD”…well, Natural Gas, which is the next cleanest fuel to pure hydrogen, and in abundance,… Read more »

Squatch
9 days ago
Reply to  M.V.

M.V., another spot on observation.
The exploding heads of the anti-fossil fuel/ anti-nuclear, hard science know nothing crowd, will move the Richter scale if they knew that elsewhere in the world, nuclear power will be making a big comeback in their lifetimes. It’s on the table here too.
Nuclear would be bigger still even now except for pesky little things like earthquakes and tidal waves. Spent fuel rods? Just bury them in the back yard of the one-eyed Congrasshole, Harry Reid, in Nevada. Oh, human error, you know, Homer Simpson at the nuclear reactor control panel. LOL

Cerano Smith
Cerano Smith
9 days ago
Reply to  M.V.

In the East, I am alarmed at all the closures of our nuclear and coal plants. 3 Mile Island was closed two years ago, more plants in Maryland, PA, and Ohio are going down in the next few years. With no power storage solution developed enough or cheap enough to be a standard, what’s replacing these when the sun don’t shine and wind don’t blow?

Squatch
9 days ago

Richard, have you noticed how even a well designed, pragmatic, experiential comment is savaged? Of course you do! LOL
I won’t be getting an all electric vehicle, maybe ever, though I have a hybrid along with our 10 year old, gas fired MB.
I’d rather have had a Lamborghini instead of the hybrid. Economics vs need, you know.
What many “greenies” don’t understand is that the direct path to an all electric future will always run through oil and gas fields, and to paraphrase a Jack Nicholson movie line, they can’t handle the truth.

Cerano Smith
Cerano Smith
9 days ago

As with everything, there is a balance. EV owners, such as myself, are early adopters. I don’t live in Cali, I’m in a rural area 2700 miles away with no chargers around but my own. My decision to buy an EV (a 2020 Bolt), was based on my specific need – a fun commuter car. That’s it. The fact that I was able to purchase a brand new one at $20,000 and save on gasoline is just a bonus. The battery technology advancements you are talking about haven’t happened yet on a production scale. They might, eventually, but for now… Read more »

Last edited 9 days ago by Cerano Smith
fritz
fritz
10 days ago

Buzz words and political ideology perpetuate a ridiculous new dependency on a technology that forfeits mobility for conveyances that depend on foreign materials. But the failed green weenies have the U.S. women’s soccer team to represent their True Colors.